Every day innocent legal gun owners are questioned by police in public. Understand the three types of contact you will have with police, what your rights are during the contacts, and if you have to tell the officers you are carrying a firearm.
Here at U.S. LawShield, whether it is a question to our phone line or a question at one of our Gun Law Seminars, the constant
theme is interaction between law enforcement and a legally armed citizen.
The first step in solving any problem is accurate diagnosis of the problem. That’s what this little training video is about. The three types of contact you can have with law enforcement, especially if you’re armed.
- Voluntary Contact
- Involuntary Detention
- Arrest
With that, let’s take a look at all three of these types of contact in detail.
Voluntary Contact
So, I’m a legal gun owner and I am carrying in a public place. As I’m walking along, for some reason a police officer says he wants to have a chat. I’m a little confused about what my rights and responsibilities are. I’m not even sure what kind of contact this is. During this situation, I wish I had an Independent Program Attorney to advise me.
Thanks to Independent Program Attorney Richard Hayes walking by, I know I am involved in what’s called a voluntary contact. It’s based on the idea of consent, and a police officer just like any other regular person can walk up to you and
ask you questions. It’s up to you to decide whether or not you want to stay in chat or just move on.
The question then becomes—in a voluntary contact do I have to tell the officer I’ve got a gun? In Texas, we recommend that you don’t volunteer the information that you’re carrying a firearm unless you are being detained or being arrested.
So, the bottom line on the voluntary contact is you can either talk or walk.
Involuntary Detention
This contact is very confusing. I’m a legal gun owner. I’m carrying legally in public, but a police officer stops me and asks for ID. He tells me stay right here and don’t go anywhere while he checks my ID and background. It sort of feels like an arrest but I don’t think it is. What does that law say about this?
This type of contact is called an involuntary detention. It seems like an arrest, but it’s not an arrest. It’s just temporary, and it’s based on the legal standard of reasonable suspicion or a reasonable articulable suspicion. That is, could an ordinary person can articulate or explain what they believe and why they believe it? They have to suspect that you have committed, or are about to commit a crime. So that’s what you’re being held for. It’s not an arrest; it’s an involuntary detention.
This raises the question—do I have to tell the officer about my gun?
In Texas, if a police officer has detained you and asked you for your driver’s license or ID and you’re carrying a firearm and you have your license to carry, you also have to hand over that license. It’s best practice to let them know that you’re carrying a firearm. While there is no penalty for this, we found that it is in your best interest to let the cops know that you’re carrying.
Arrest
I don’t need a lawyer to tell me when a police contact is called an arrest. An arrest is based on probable cause. That’s when the police can articulate that you probably committed a crime. You’re going to be restrained and you’re gonna be disarmed. If you’re being arrested, and you’re carrying your firearm, move at the officer’s speed. You’re going to be disarmed. Don’t reach for your firearm, and if you don’t understand any of their instructions, the only thing that should move is your mouth for clarification.
You should invoke your right to have an attorney advise you prior to questioning and invoke your right to remain silent. Actually say—I’m invoking my right to remain silent. If you don’t invoke your rights, they can use your post arrest silence against you.
When you’re a responsible legal gun owner carrying legally in public, you have far more concerns than an unarmed
person does. Hopefully, this video helped you identify the type of police contacts that you might encounter, gave you some
ideas on how to manage that contact, and hopefully gave you some tips on how you and that officer can separate safer and
more effectively.
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I appreciate the clarification!
It seems to me that you don’t always have the ability to “talk or walk.” If a cop rolls up to you and is intent on talking with you, they’re not simply going to let you stroll away. Is there a point at which a voluntary contact transitions to an involuntary detention? I’ve seen far too many videos of cops not allowing someone to simply leave if they have it in their mind to talk to them or ask them questions.
As always, great information from an oufit that cares about all it’s friends ( clients ).
I was at a movie theater with my family and was standing in the food concession line when a security guard approached me and asked me if I was carrying a weapon because he noticed a bulge under my shirt. I don’t see how because I was wearing a t shirt. I knew to leave my weapon in the car because there was a 06/07 sign. I told him No because I didn’t know what else to say and it was the first time I had that type of encounter. I suppose he had every legal right to ask as a “peace officer.”
Short, informative, right to the point. Great information dissemination!
Sooooooooo grabbing your firearm turning and running isssss aaaaaaaaa bad idea???? 😂😂😂 great info thanks
I would add that ANYTIME a police officer asks you questions, it IS an investigation. They will lie to you and tell you otherwise (legally). Bottom line: NEVER trust what a police officer tells you. They are NOT your friends.
I was unaware that you have to invoke your rights. I thought my rights were automatic via the law and the US Constitution. Thanks for the enlightenment.
Laws have been created to protect the PO from false arrest and illegal detainment. It’s a stacked deck.
In the involuntary detention scenario, do I have to hand over my firearm?
Why did you surrender your ID in the involuntary before being told why your being detained. If you haven’t broke the law then then when ID is requested this is when you request a supervisor and invoke the fifth… if he continues any further then it’s a violation of your rights and time for a paycheck.. 5,000 to 25,000 depends how far they take it. Had a friend receive 250,000 because the officer got mad and elbowed him in the face because he invoked the fifth. Officer reported he tripped and put his arm forward causing 8 stitches and a broken nose. Smh